Politics Thread

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  1. developer

    developer Moderator Staff Member

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    Discuss your political view here and do chit-chat with other members. Please follow general rules of OS and refrain from abusing members/individual political leaders.
     
  2. drjpatwa

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    aryan bhai aa gaye yaha ???
     
  3. developer

    developer Moderator Staff Member

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    wow..bhai aap toh ready ho discussion ke liye...chalo mein hi ques. pooch leta hu aapse..

    aapko bjp mein kya accha lagta hai ? aur congress aur aap mein kya burai lagti hai?
     
  4. drjpatwa

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    lets me clear my view on all 3 party....

    1)CONGRESS - they left nothing to say :p , they did nothing except corruption.... paise lekar bhi kaam nhi karte :D & statements they gave 2 yrs. back during jan lokpal & still making ( they think we indians having short term memory & forget everything but i m not among them )

    lot to write abt them but forget abt it.... i don't even consider them as a option for giving vote....



    2)AAP - had very high hope & respect for arvind kejriwal but..... even i wrote in 1 other site abt it before delhi election , we gave plenty of chances to congress & bjp , just give them 1 chance & i also wrote that if AAP will put good educated person with clean image in my area i will definately think them as a option for bjp....

    but he broke trust of everybody , when he already made promise of their children that he won't make govt. with alliance of congress & BJP then y he formed govt. ???? agar wo govt. form nhi karta then he will become hero & delhi me re-election hota to he will definately get majority par usme patience nhi tha :( & after making govt. he did all those drama & some of his statements to get cheap popularity.....

    the thing which i like most abt them - agenda is corruption , give seat to clear image person...

    so recently i posted abt AAP on my fb - Mr.kejriwal became CM after shortest interval of entering into politics but i think he lost a gr8 opportunity.AAM couldn't able to digest it's unbeliveable success in delhi & they done all things haphazardly,wanted to be popular overnight & broke their own promises.... but it's good that they form a govt. in delhi before loksabha election & we came to know their real ability.
    In oneline - GOOD INTENTIONS BUT INABILITY TO EXECUTE....


    3) BJP - This time it's all abt modi , nowhere bjp. he is d guy who started politics of development (unlike others who just bag votes on religion , caste etc. !!!! )
    he has guts to speak openly against terrorism ( unlike amul baby's statement - itne bade desh me chote mote hadse to hote rehte hai !!! )
    he has clear vision for future....

    can write few pages abt it but forget abt it.....

    flip side of modi - yaaa he might be taking money from big corporate house & giving benefit to co. like adani but atleast he is doing development....
    yaa there is lot of corruption in all gujarat govt.'s division. he should bring good lokpayukt bill in gujarat :(
    in health & education gujarat is worst :(

    but actually there is no choice other than modi.... for me he is thousand time better than congress..... & those who think he is anti-muslim , come in gujarat & see d situation of muslims here, they r living tension free. desh me aab tak 284 dange hue hai fir bhi har baar 2002 guj. ke dange he kyun sabko yad ate hai ??? it's all abt media & opposite party's hype , nothing else....

    so , khate to sab hai , vote use do jo kam khata ho & kha kar kuch kaam bhi karta ho :p
    so he is actually not my answer of choice but answer of exclusion :p


    i m open for discussion.....
     
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  5. Aryan

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    congress ke liye apne kaha "nothing except corruption". please name any 1 case which any person of congress from past 10 years in upa government who has being convicted or found guilty. :)
     
  6. drjpatwa

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    biggest joke :D

    2g , coal gate , adarsh building , cwg ye sab kand maine aur apne kiye the kya :p

    & these r just tip of iceberg which came in picture thanx to CAG...

    when food price jumped twice or thrice isn't it corruption ??? & at such time rather than controlling food prices ppl r making statement that they don't hve magical stick to control food price !!!! :eek: just check inflation rate when bjp lead vajpayee made govt. during 1999-2004. food prices remain almost stable during those period.
     
  7. Aryan

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    I hope you read my question properly. I asked 1 person who is convicted and/or found guilty and is from congress. you failed to give even one name.

    2g - subjudice, court haven't given decision yet. if you feel modi ji got clean chit was right for 2002 from honorable court than one can't accounce own verdict can he? plus, you emphasis on cag, well cag has reported that it is not a scam but wrong decision taken that can be used by beneficial parties. now 2g allocation decision was taken by the upa? check your knowledge, it was done in 1992.

    adarsh - subjudice, no person convicted yet, allegedly done by officials under the cm and army men. since the approval involves cm office cm got into light however he is still not found guilty.

    cwg - again subjudice, no guilty yet. CBI reports blames cwg organising committee for wrong doings.

    now if someone says modi ji is involved in riots 1st reaction would be "clean chit". so my dear doctor Saab, please wait for law to take its own course.

    by the way, only Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh are state where ministers on corruption charges are out on bail or still in jail. :)
     
  8. Aryan

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    can you please tell how many metro trains modi ji stared in Gujarat? how many dams and bridges were built in last 11 years? how many meters of road was constructed in Gujarat? how many new schools and colleges were open in Gujarat? how many new hospitals were opened in Gujarat?

    and compare these to national ratio or better with haryana or Maharashtra please. and for debate sake I would even allow to compare all above stats to be compared with Bihar too. show where Gujarat stands? (hint - its not even in top 10)
     
  9. drjpatwa

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    In india court takes 15-20 yrs. or may be more yrs. to give final verdict & most of the time culprits given clean chit saying lack of evidence. so should i wait for 15-20 yrs. !!!! rather i believe in what i perceive & decide base on that ( it may be wrong though )..... but i don't hve thousand yrs. to live so that i can give my 15-20 yrs. to decide whether this party is clean or not !!!!!

    & just give me 1 singal acceptable reason y should i vote for congress ???? if ur reason can convince me , i will definately vote for congress.....
     
  10. Aryan

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    "he has clear vision for future....

    can write few pages abt it but forget abt it....."

    oh please, be our guest. take your time. but do tell at least one 'clear' vision that modi ji has. let's say on what amul baby failed, terrorism? what's his take? please do let us know about vision on economy, foreign policy wrt china and pak, black money, corropution, social justice and reservation, ram mandir, women upliftment etc etc.. because no one in india still actually knows anything as such which you claimed as clear vision. :)
     
  11. PIEKEY

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    that is the problem bro..!!

    no body has been convicted because sarkaar to akhir mein congress ki hai so wo log jail to jaa nahi sakte..!!!
    And itne ghotale hone ke baad kisi ka vishwas nahi raha us par.. atleast in Gujarat i dont see other then modi..! :)
     
  12. Aryan

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    because in Gujarat there is no opposition left. you have guys already from bjp fighting again biggest political goon ever india had. you think they will give any real fight?

    hiren pandya ko kya hua? what is position of so many ias and ips officers who were involved in crime with mr clean chit? either killed or in jail. aisa aadmi pm ban gaya to kya hoga sochke bhi darr lagta hai

    as for development, Gujarat urban was already developed like any other urban city india has be it Pune or Chandigarh or Lucknow. reality of saurashtra or katcch is totally different. people say using amitabh bachchan dialogue" kabhi padharo", same Bachchan who sold UP mein hai dum for money and sells from chaddi to condoms. me says kabhi to Gujarat se bahar bhi with open eyes and clear heart dekho. Delhi, Chandigarh, Bangalore, Chennai, Mumbai jaisi jagah se compare mat karo do it with aurangabad, hisar, kanpur, bhubneshwar, Indore. not just Gujarat whole India is developed irrespective of how people earn there because gujju are main contributors than modi in so called development.

    and propaganda and lies spreaders say modi will do this will do that. upar doc saab ne likha amul baby said so (however he can't show proof if I ask for that) but what is modi's stand on fighting on terrorism? has he ever ever I repeat EVER said anything on how will he fight with terrorism? logo ko bolna ata hai modi ye karega who karega. poocho kya karega to kuch nahi bolte banta.

    this man only abusing others and selling dreams but no concrete idea on how. and if anyone asks him how he runs away. rahul gandhi took at least 37 press conference and an interview. how many press conference did modi attend ever? forget interview wahan se dum dabake bhhagna ata hai bas usko.

    doc Saab said give any reason why should he cote for congress. I challenge anyone reading this to give any one reason why I vote for modi. don't give development crap. real reason. because all he is is abusing others and no vision.
     
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  13. PIEKEY

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    hahahaha...!! :p :p
    chodo aap tab he samjhoge jab aapko asli jawab milega
    Atleast rs 80/ litre petrol to nahi jaega.
    na he kabhi Onion rs 90/ kilo hoga ..! :)

    Congress ne kabhi basic needs bhi puri nahi kari..
     
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  14. drjpatwa

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    any PM who is well wisher of his own country have 1 singal vision of growth & development of country....

    @ abt terrorism , i think u hven't seen this video of modi ( ye love letter likhna bandh karo , pakistan jo bhasha samje uss bhasha me use sikhana chahie !!! )


    may be u r too busy to watch video of congress' PM candidate rahul gandhi at frankly speaking rahul gandhi with arnab :p

    @ abt economy - already indian stock market trading at all time high bcoz of the hope of that modi will form govt. !!!!! & those FII , mutual funds etc. hve better knowledge of economy & who is good for our economy than us...

    same way u will find answer of all ur quries if u google it....

    @ abt corruption on guj, mp minister

    i already told in my 1st post only that there is corruption in gujarat but there is development in gujarat also. & for that i believe strong lokayukt & lokpal bill should be pass in parliament.

    & i m totally against when modi tie ups with corrputed ppl like yediruppa..... here where i like AAP , they could have given better fight & force other political party to give seat to clean image person , but unfortunately they don't able to execute anything :(
     
  15. Aryan

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    easy said than knowing reality. from 1947 when india had nothing who built dams and roads? modi? when whole village died of cholera and chickenpox who eradicate these? modi na? when china or pak kept bullying us even though we had nothing in inventory of arms who won the wars? bjp na? who brought computers? atal ji? who brought IT revolution? adavani? who brought banking nationalistaion? amit shah na? who made privatisation which makes you buy interntational quality items of samsung or sony, mac donald or dominos, apple or microsoft? babu bhai bokhariya na?

    baat karte ho..
     
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  16. PIEKEY

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    and who will do developement now ? Rahul gandhi na? Sonia Gandhi na? The great Man Mohan Singh na???????
    Prices hike kisne kiye? Modi ne? 15000 par apna sensex kab aaya? Modi ke raaj mein?
    Ginvane ko bohot hai past ka Aryan bhai, Problem dono ki side se hai , but at present The one who is at the top is just modi, not saying he is right each and every time, yes as dr. ji said yediruppa tie up i am totally against modi.but Lalu ko bhi congress ne pala na akhir , Sale sab chor hai. lekin Kisiko choose to karna padega, rather then fighting bring up a solution of which can be a better choice.
     
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  17. drjpatwa

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    today what a common man need from govt. ???

    they just ask for basic requirement from govt. - water , drainage , road , electricity , safety , employment etc.

    & gujarat is providing all these & that's the reason , nowadays if any person from other state comes to gujarat he settles in gujarat only !!!!

    here even girls can freely roam on roads at 1-2 o'clock of night , that's the gujarat !!!!
     
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  18. drjpatwa

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    bhai chicken pox eradicate nhi hua small pox eradicate hua hai .....
     
  19. Aryan

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    bolna asan hai, bolne ko main bhi din mein 10 baar pakistan ko gaali de sakta hoon. i asked what is his policy? ZERO. get that straight bro. this man knows only speaking and has no knowledge of how foreign affairs work. you talk about clear vision. is this clear vision? :p

    chalo maan bhi liya for a second he becomes pm, he will be bjp's pm right? whose pm went to pakistan and in india in our own land terrorist made camps inside kargil? is this the government you believe in? congress ke samay 4 feet bhi china intrude kar le to chhati peet ke rote hain log, idhar to poora camp bana liya tha. can anyone believe these guys? and what happend in agra summit? read history please.
    wrong, market is no indicator of economy 1st. i'm from finance field so i can challenge on this with anyone who can prove if it is right.

    and markets are high not because of modi will become pm, market knows modi won't become pm and that's the fact. markets are high because CAD is down. markets are high are government expenditure is at all time low. markets are high as dollar and inflation are curbed. please think anything else too other than modi. sehat aur knowledge ke liye acha hoga :D

    i cant find anything, all i know is abusing shehzada ( but forgets badals, varun gandhi, rajnath/vasundhara/thackery/paswan/shivraj/gopinath etc etc), abusing congress (his favourite time pass) abusing pakistan and china, saying he wanted to be army man when he is fooling army mens, wanted to be teacher when he is fooling teachers, wanted to be joker when he is in circus, wanted to be catroon when in cartoon network, wanted to be this and that, says so and so state where he visits has good relation with gujarat as if other states are fighting battle of panipat with each other.

    i want you to give concrete reason what is his take on terrorism. bhashan baji nahi, his vision err as per you "clear vision" wo batao. kahan hain clear visions?

    that's when whole opposition is sold out to modi so many misiters are caught. agar sach mein koi aa gaya opposition wala to itne kacche chhithe khulenge ki shakal dikhane haalat nahi bachegi.

    once again, show the clear vision you said about. on anything. foregin policy, economy, women empowerment, jobs, inflation, pakistan, china, our security forces, corruption.... anything. just clear vision meaning bata do. apka gulaam ban jaunga.
     
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  20. Aryan

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    i hope you go out of gujarat to odisha or bihar (not to already better developed haryana or maharastra) and see if these things are there or not.

    1-2 o'clock? mumbai, pune ya gurgaon ghoom ke aao bhai, raat ke 3-4 baje ladkiyan ghoomti hain. if that is indicator of development. but can girls in saurashtra roam at even 10 pm? ye bata do. :D
     

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